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So, on those I'd say it's predetermined On the other hand, there are bonus rounds where you try to match identical symbols out of many choices, and until you get a matching pair, the bonus round doesn't start or award. It also may be that the game is continuously shuffling them until you do make a choice, much like the rest of the deck while the game is waiting for the player to discard. I would love to have somebody say, "I program these games for company X and here is how we do it Also, as was mentioned, sometimes the games show you what was behind the unchosen prizes. Joined: Dec 14, Threads: Posts: Here in PA, on the un-predetermined machines the other choices are revealed. Based on my 13 years of answering questions from gamblers, I can tell you that most slot players are not satisfied with the "it doesn't matter," or "it can happen different ways" answer. Same as for video poker. Are Slot Bonus Rounds Predetermined? On the other hand, gaming regs usually don't address whether bonus round outcomes may be fully determined at the beginning of each play or whether the player's interaction must have something to do with it. Does that name ring a bell? Joined: Jan 5, Threads: 3 Posts: 8. You can't handle the truth! As well, the payouts on these games might be set in general to be low. Even if the players win is predetermined, the PARS sheets I've seen indicate that every prize has equal odds. Just wondering if anyone out there knows for sure. Joined: Dec 10, Threads: 7 Posts: In Las Vegas, your choices do indeed make a difference, but I don't know about how they are programmed in Canada. So, mathematically, it wouldn't matter if the player had free will or not. One thing you can ask your friend is whether the slot game gets its results from a remote server or whether it does a random determination within the machine. That said, it is my understanding that in bonus rounds where to pick icons on the screen the player does indeed control his destiny. I have some knowledge of OLG's operations, but more from a 30, foot level. It is true that it doesn't matter mathematically, but the players truly want to know if they are they are in control of their own destiny. Joined: Aug 31, Threads: 88 Posts: I'm not sure how the OLG does it. Joined: Oct 14, Threads: Posts: MathExtremist ME would be perfect to address this. Joined: Nov 12, Threads: 17 Posts: If the player isn't experiencing good bonus rounds, the player has to remember that bonus rounds are highly volatile. Joined: Feb 28, Threads: Posts: I can't answer this, because I don't know. Trust me, I've been asked this question for 13 years. I would really like to be enlightened. Coronavirus math Casino security and Plaintiffs' Case Easy math puzzles.{/INSERTKEYS}{/PARAGRAPH} Maybe there isn't a regulation against it, but I would call it dishonest, at the least. Recommended online casinos. For example, a spot pick-until-pop bonus can be evaluated by the average total value before "collect" under random picking, or by a predetermined number of picks to reveal. Joined: Jan 2, Threads: 9 Posts: I don't know what rules are in place in Ontario so this may or may not apply to you, but everything I've read over the past few years indicate that your selection does make a difference, provided you are playing on a "Class III" machine which is what is used in Las Vegas and most other casino's. Although, it's almost always likely the best bonuses have the fewest matching symbols, so it's likely you won't hit the biggest one when you play. Those, at least at the matching stage could go anywhere it seems. All this is my answer for class III games. It's not whether you win or lose; it's whether or not you had a good bet. December 10th, at AM permalink. I have been a slot player for many years. My friend has recently been employed by Ontario Lottery and Gaming, the owner of all the casinos in the province, which primarily is the government of Ontario. Many times I would pick a lousy bonus round and become very frustrated. Preparing for a fight about your bad decision is not as smart as making a good decision. I'd be interested to hear what ME says on that. No matter what I pick, the results would always be the same. OLG's payback on slot machines is not atypical from other jurisdictions. Hi everyone, I live in a large gaming Canadian gaming market. During orientation, he was told how the machines work. Class II slots bingo based would not allow for free will, because the outcome must be determined by the draw of the bingo balls. I have always believed that bonus rounds were based on my choices. I would call it lying if that information was not truthful. He questioned how the bonus rounds operate and was told that all bonus rounds are predetermined. Unlike him, I have not worked directly for a slot maker. So if you're playing Fireball Frenzy and pick a Fireball, after your choice is revealed the other two options are also revealed. Specifically, Ontario. Wizard Administrator. If the slots are centrally-determined virtual pull-tabs like they are in New York racinos or Washington tribal locations, then everything not just the bonus round is predetermined by the central computer managing the set of tickets. Some districts use "Class II" machines which are more like bingo and are also referred to as "Video Lottery Terminals" in which case the results is predetermined. The game shuffles the prizes and you pick them, like on Deal or No Deal. There are 3 or 4 different ways to handle it, but basically all of them are mathematically equivalent. It's actually easier from a coding standpoint to do the random method. Spin the high multiplier, and amazingly you likely get one big hit out just 5 spins -- the end result seems to be the same most of the time between the options. RSS Feed. But on the "Power-up Bonus" machines there are several of those , whatever you pick, you never get to see what else might have happened with a different pick, leading me to believe that it wouldn't have made any difference. 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